Reagan Called President Nixon To Slur Africans As ‘Monkeys.’ Of Course There Are Tapes.

Former Governor of California Ronald Reagan (1911 - 2004) making a speech during the Republican presidential primary in New York, March 1980. Reagan won the New York primary and was later selected as the Republican nominee, before being elected President in 1981. (Photo by Keystone/Hulton Archive/Getty Images)


It was October 1971, and the United Nations had just voted to recognize the People’s Republic of China.

Then-California Gov. Ronald Reagan was infuriated that delegations from Africa did not align themselves with the U.S. position - that the U.N. should recognize Taiwan as an independent state - and wanted to get President Richard Nixon on the phone. He was apparently disgusted after watching delegates from Tanzania celebrate the U.N. decision to support Chinese sovereignty over Taiwan.

"To see those, those monkeys from those African countries - damn them, they're still uncomfortable wearing shoes!" Reagan said.

Nixon replied with a big laugh.

"Well and then they - the tail wags the dog, doesn't it? The tail wags the dog." Nixon said.

The conversation between Reagan and Nixon was published in The Atlantic. Tim Naftali, a history professor at NYU and the former director of the Nixon Presidential Library, worked to get the tape released and wrote the subsequent article for The Atlantic.

The National Archives withheld the racist comments in the recording's first release in 2000, which Naftali says was apparently in protection of Reagan's privacy. But after Reagan's death in 2004, and amid continued review process by the National Archives, Naftali was successful in getting the full conversation released.

"It was worse than I expected," Naftali told The Washington Post, referring to the audio on the tape. "It was the combination of the slur by Reagan and then Nixon's repeating it, not once but twice in later conversations. This was not just revealing about what Ronald Reagan thought about Africans in 1971, and arguably later, it was also a reminder of how Nixon could hold racist views but not think of himself as a racist."

After the call with Reagan, Nixon phoned Secretary of State William Rogers and then employed the same language Reagan used as he described the frustrations over the U.N. decision.

"As you can imagine, there's strong feeling that we just shouldn't, as [Reagan] said, he saw these, as he said, he saw these - these, uh, these cannibals on television last night, and he says, 'Christ, they weren't even wearing shoes, and here the United States is going to submit its fate to that,' and so forth and so on," Nixon said in the recorded phone call.

In a second conversation with Rogers on the same day, Nixon spoke about Reagan's disgust once again. He was recorded saying Reagan "practically got sick at his stomach," and that the California governor said "this bunch of people who don't even wear shoes yet, to be kicking the United States in the teeth," characterizing Reagan's feelings about what had happened, according to Naftali.

But Nixon had also been unhappy about what transpired at the U.N. that October. Even before his phone call with Reagan, he had already requested cancellations of future meetings with African leaders whose votes had differed from that of the United States, according to Naftali.

At the time, Nixon's State Department said British and French dealings were to blame for the decision to cancel the meetings.

"Don't even submit to me the problem that it's difficult to turn it off since we have already accepted it," Nixon was recorded telling then-deputy national security adviser Alexander M. Haig. "Just turn it off, on the ground that I will be out of town."

Reagan biographers and historians are still wrestling reconciling the newly revealed audio with the president's personal record. As Naftali noted in The Atlantic, Nixon's racist views have been well documented, but Reagan's personal diaries are free of any similar rhetoric. Some of Reagan's most divisive policies -- like embracing the apartheid government of South Africa and inventing the trope of the "welfare queen" -- may take on a different light now.

"I leave it to Reagan scholars to take this and then connect it to comments about welfare queens and what this may or may not say about Reagan's general view of race," Naftali said.

One such scholar described the new audio as "shocking."

"I'm kind of taken aback. This is stunning," said Bob Spitz, author of "Reagan: An American Journey." Spitz gained access to Reagan's personal archives for the work and said he found no hint that the president would hold the kinds of views he conveyed to Nixon.

"In all of my very careful research into his private papers, I never found an instance where I felt that Reagan was racist," he said. "Generally when someone says, 'I don't have a racist bone in my body,' I'm instantly skeptical, but in this case after all my work I found myself kind of nodding my head. So this is shocking."

Naftali said he hopes his research encourages others to plum the voluminous records available on all presidents. The Reagan audio should also spark new conversations about presidential views on race, he said, and how it impacts real world policy.

“Understanding how our presidents think about race is not a matter of character assassination, it’s about understanding what drives their decision making,” he said. “It’s not partisan gamesmanship, it’s about how these people with the power we gave them as result of an election have used it. If their minds are poisoned by prejudice, we need to know.”